Sharing the full story, not just the headlines. His telling of those battles comes across as honest and, believe it or not, humble. Bill Gardner (born 29 January 1954) is an English football supporter, former football hooligan and co-author of books on football hooliganism.. Born in Hornchurch, Essex, Gardner came to prominence in the 1970s as a supporter of West Ham United and as a member of the Mile End Boys and not firm, the I.C.F.. Gardner was arrested by the Metropolitan police in 1987 as part of Operation Fulltime. Please anyone know where this was originally posted? Bill Gardner has only ever been himself - and that's what made his mark on football culture so great. I'm doing a better job than you. View Billy Gardner’s profile on LinkedIn, the world's largest professional community. The Inter City Firm (ICF) is an English football hooligan firm mainly active in the 1970s, 1980s and early 1990s, associated with West Ham United.

Cass Pennant describes some great battles with them in his ICF book. There is, in fact, scarcely any mention in the book of West Ham the team, although there is a revealing account of an exchange between Swallow and the West Ham player Frank Lampard, during a pitch invasion at Birmingham City, after the Hammers had lost an FA Cup tie. We've passed all the Chelsea pubs, giving them the once-over... Nobody in them except Chelsea fans who don't want to know. The ICF also make a return as the GSE in Green Street 3: Never Back Down. Everyone respected him and you needed him on your side.

It allows our most engaged readers to debate the big issues, share their own experiences, discuss The next thing – the Old Bill pushed them away. Create a commenting name to join the debate. bit tangential but what are those soppy mugs over at WHFTV going to do on their next set of post match vox pops?

Chelsea had a firm renowned throughout the country. You can find our Community Guidelines in full here. Paul Row, 38, is a notorious member of the ICF. This became, "Congratulations you've just met the famous ICF", when the ICF were the subject of a Thames Television documentary, Hooligan, which featured ICF members including Cass Pennant. "I've been going there since '73," Swallow elaborates. We suggest moving this party over to a full size window. He arrived to rally the troops, the main man in the Inter City Firm and his greeting passed into football fan history. There was an error retrieving your Wish Lists. They finally got in a large battle when the ICF trapped them in a dark section. Start your Independent Premium subscription today. Good Afternoon, Gentlemen, the Name’s Bill Gardner He arrived to rally the troops, the main man in the InterCity Firm and his greeting passed into football fan history. Find all the books, read about the author, and more. Posts: 16,777,215 BILL GARDNER Feb 16, 2006 21:30:30 GMT 1 . His cutting ties with club is going to be very meaningful to a lot of people from the East End. No hype, just the advice and analysis you need, Register with your social account or click here to log in, Not, of course, that "supporters" is quite the word. Equally, violence could always be found, which Pennant and the ICF made it their business to do. You make sure you've no colours on show as you pass quickly by the away supporters' entrance to Chelsea's North Stand... We were a procession of Doc Martens. Though Gardner does indulge in some whining and some defensive CYA rhetoric, his book exceeds the genre's standards because he actually speaks about the game and its players as much as the aggro that occurred off the pitch. "And I always end up... getting hit on the head with a brick and such like.". Most of these books have very little to say about the game at all. His arms came up and he pulled himself into my part of the Shed. The ICF are also suggested in the 2009 film Green Street 2: Stand Your Ground.

11. Then you can start reading Kindle books on your smartphone, tablet, or computer - no Kindle device required. ISBN 978-1-904034-85-8. Carlton Leach was a member of West Ham's ICF. Due to the sheer scale of this comment community, we are not able to give each post Select Post; Deselect Post; Members of the ICF were used as consultants on the film. Having done quite a few Hornchurch away trips over the years. [1] The 2005 film Green Street was based on the ICF, but not by name. [14] This mirrors a real life incident where Gardner himself had hot tea thrown over him by Manchester United fans. 'active' : ''"> 'active' : ''"> Vietnam, Custer's Last Stand, and the films Gladiator and Zulu are all evoked in the descriptions by him and other ICF members of fights with opposing supporters. The title of Pennant's book refers to the message printed on the grotesque calling cards deposited with victims by members of West Ham's so-called InterCity Firm, of which Pennant was a leading "general".

Good Afternoon Gentlemen, The Name's Bill Gardner.

Gary Oldman plays Bex Bissell, the leader of the ICC - Inter City Crew. Bill Gardner of Beaver Plastics Ltd. introduces a building product called Logix ICF, discusses the pro’s and con’s relative to other traditional building materials, and gets you started with how to properly handle and install Logix ICF. BromleyWHU. will be published daily in dedicated articles. Stoic and strong and always defending the weak. 'active' : ''"> Congratulations You Have Just Met the ICF. "You've got to give One-Arm Babs his front, because he called it on: 'Where's Bill Gardner [the West Ham terrace legend]? "You're going home," we sang, right arms raised in tribal unity, "in a combine harvester!" I told him to eff off. I was at the Bill Gardner signing in some workman's club last year.

Gardner was arrested by the Metropolitan police in 1987 as part of Operation Fulltime. The existing Open Comments threads will continue to exist for those who do not subscribe to We work hard to protect your security and privacy. I had always been nervously respectful of authority, at least since my friend Heppy and I had tried to nick a Mars bar and a Twix from Boots in Chapel Street, Southport, and got caught by the female store detective. Instead, the initials GSE (Green Street Elite) were used. See the complete profile on LinkedIn and discover Bill’s … There was another stand off, but the Old Bill got in the middle and that was it. We were all itching, scanning One-Arm Babs, thinking the first one in on him could be a new name to talk about when the time came to recite the story of the day. They played on Top of the Pops in West Ham's colours of claret and blue.

[15], "1987: Police crack down on soccer hooligans", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bill_Gardner_(football_hooligan)&oldid=984369238, Wikipedia articles with WORLDCATID identifiers, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License, This page was last edited on 19 October 2020, at 19:16.

Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Everything that embodied the club, like everything that made that beloved relative is gone. It was the one time when our different philosophies as football supporters clashed. feels like there's been a hostile takeover of the support and everyone on the club gravy train knows it.

continue to respect all commenters and create constructive debates. [12][13] • Pennant, Cass (18 August 2003). Chelsea would be waiting in the Shed for us, or in the courtyard entrance to the Shed. All pictures © PA. As far as I know, none of them did.

I was a respectable grammar school boy who, give or take a tricky gerund, could translate from the Latin Ovid's Pyramus and Thisbe.

He made a name for himself as a fearless leader. Extracted from 'Congratulations, You've Just Met the ICF', by Cass Pennant (published by John Blake Publishing on 4 April, £15.99). I want Gardner!' Bill was purely a West Ham man who had no time for wasters. There were far-right morons in the Firm obviously but even he said they left out their politics when it came to football and accepted him because he was West Ham. But when the real hard men got among the Stamford Bridge mob, they dismissed Chelsea as singers. I can't remember the name but we stayed overnight at 'Upton Park'. Prime members enjoy FREE Delivery and exclusive access to music, movies, TV shows, original audio series, and Kindle books. Pennant writes about that night in his book. Community to your comment. The word simply wouldn't form. Football Specials, Brighton seafront – you name it. Pennant's is not a football book. Despite my mother's anxiety, even in those grim days when every Saturday afternoon saw outbreaks of crowd trouble in English football, violence could always be avoided. 11. Whatever, Ikoli admits there was a real buzz knowing you were being accepted by another culture and that this culture hated you: "Everything at West Ham in those days was pure racism, but they accepted you and stuck by you, even when the skinheads were singing 'Ain't no black in the Union Jack'.". [3][7][8] The aim of this police operation was to bring football hooligans to justice.

You lost your battle, we're going to win ours.". Cass was accepted with the ICF while being a large black man raised by a white family. Bradderswhu Global Moderator We Are The Firm.

Sharing the full story, not just the headlines. His telling of those battles comes across as honest and, believe it or not, humble. Bill Gardner (born 29 January 1954) is an English football supporter, former football hooligan and co-author of books on football hooliganism.. Born in Hornchurch, Essex, Gardner came to prominence in the 1970s as a supporter of West Ham United and as a member of the Mile End Boys and not firm, the I.C.F.. Gardner was arrested by the Metropolitan police in 1987 as part of Operation Fulltime. Please anyone know where this was originally posted? Bill Gardner has only ever been himself - and that's what made his mark on football culture so great. I'm doing a better job than you. View Billy Gardner’s profile on LinkedIn, the world's largest professional community. The Inter City Firm (ICF) is an English football hooligan firm mainly active in the 1970s, 1980s and early 1990s, associated with West Ham United.

Cass Pennant describes some great battles with them in his ICF book. There is, in fact, scarcely any mention in the book of West Ham the team, although there is a revealing account of an exchange between Swallow and the West Ham player Frank Lampard, during a pitch invasion at Birmingham City, after the Hammers had lost an FA Cup tie. We've passed all the Chelsea pubs, giving them the once-over... Nobody in them except Chelsea fans who don't want to know. The ICF also make a return as the GSE in Green Street 3: Never Back Down. Everyone respected him and you needed him on your side.

It allows our most engaged readers to debate the big issues, share their own experiences, discuss The next thing – the Old Bill pushed them away. Create a commenting name to join the debate. bit tangential but what are those soppy mugs over at WHFTV going to do on their next set of post match vox pops?

Chelsea had a firm renowned throughout the country. You can find our Community Guidelines in full here. Paul Row, 38, is a notorious member of the ICF. This became, "Congratulations you've just met the famous ICF", when the ICF were the subject of a Thames Television documentary, Hooligan, which featured ICF members including Cass Pennant. "I've been going there since '73," Swallow elaborates. We suggest moving this party over to a full size window. He arrived to rally the troops, the main man in the Inter City Firm and his greeting passed into football fan history. There was an error retrieving your Wish Lists. They finally got in a large battle when the ICF trapped them in a dark section. Start your Independent Premium subscription today. Good Afternoon, Gentlemen, the Name’s Bill Gardner He arrived to rally the troops, the main man in the InterCity Firm and his greeting passed into football fan history. Find all the books, read about the author, and more. Posts: 16,777,215 BILL GARDNER Feb 16, 2006 21:30:30 GMT 1 . His cutting ties with club is going to be very meaningful to a lot of people from the East End. No hype, just the advice and analysis you need, Register with your social account or click here to log in, Not, of course, that "supporters" is quite the word. Equally, violence could always be found, which Pennant and the ICF made it their business to do. You make sure you've no colours on show as you pass quickly by the away supporters' entrance to Chelsea's North Stand... We were a procession of Doc Martens. Though Gardner does indulge in some whining and some defensive CYA rhetoric, his book exceeds the genre's standards because he actually speaks about the game and its players as much as the aggro that occurred off the pitch. "And I always end up... getting hit on the head with a brick and such like.". Most of these books have very little to say about the game at all. His arms came up and he pulled himself into my part of the Shed. The ICF are also suggested in the 2009 film Green Street 2: Stand Your Ground.

11. Then you can start reading Kindle books on your smartphone, tablet, or computer - no Kindle device required. ISBN 978-1-904034-85-8. Carlton Leach was a member of West Ham's ICF. Due to the sheer scale of this comment community, we are not able to give each post Select Post; Deselect Post; Members of the ICF were used as consultants on the film. Having done quite a few Hornchurch away trips over the years. [1] The 2005 film Green Street was based on the ICF, but not by name. [14] This mirrors a real life incident where Gardner himself had hot tea thrown over him by Manchester United fans. 'active' : ''"> 'active' : ''"> Vietnam, Custer's Last Stand, and the films Gladiator and Zulu are all evoked in the descriptions by him and other ICF members of fights with opposing supporters. The title of Pennant's book refers to the message printed on the grotesque calling cards deposited with victims by members of West Ham's so-called InterCity Firm, of which Pennant was a leading "general".

Good Afternoon Gentlemen, The Name's Bill Gardner.

Gary Oldman plays Bex Bissell, the leader of the ICC - Inter City Crew. Bill Gardner of Beaver Plastics Ltd. introduces a building product called Logix ICF, discusses the pro’s and con’s relative to other traditional building materials, and gets you started with how to properly handle and install Logix ICF. BromleyWHU. will be published daily in dedicated articles. Stoic and strong and always defending the weak. 'active' : ''"> Congratulations You Have Just Met the ICF. "You've got to give One-Arm Babs his front, because he called it on: 'Where's Bill Gardner [the West Ham terrace legend]? "You're going home," we sang, right arms raised in tribal unity, "in a combine harvester!" I told him to eff off. I was at the Bill Gardner signing in some workman's club last year.

Gardner was arrested by the Metropolitan police in 1987 as part of Operation Fulltime. The existing Open Comments threads will continue to exist for those who do not subscribe to We work hard to protect your security and privacy. I had always been nervously respectful of authority, at least since my friend Heppy and I had tried to nick a Mars bar and a Twix from Boots in Chapel Street, Southport, and got caught by the female store detective. Instead, the initials GSE (Green Street Elite) were used. See the complete profile on LinkedIn and discover Bill’s … There was another stand off, but the Old Bill got in the middle and that was it. We were all itching, scanning One-Arm Babs, thinking the first one in on him could be a new name to talk about when the time came to recite the story of the day. They played on Top of the Pops in West Ham's colours of claret and blue.

[15], "1987: Police crack down on soccer hooligans", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bill_Gardner_(football_hooligan)&oldid=984369238, Wikipedia articles with WORLDCATID identifiers, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License, This page was last edited on 19 October 2020, at 19:16.

Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Everything that embodied the club, like everything that made that beloved relative is gone. It was the one time when our different philosophies as football supporters clashed. feels like there's been a hostile takeover of the support and everyone on the club gravy train knows it.

continue to respect all commenters and create constructive debates. [12][13] • Pennant, Cass (18 August 2003). Chelsea would be waiting in the Shed for us, or in the courtyard entrance to the Shed. All pictures © PA. As far as I know, none of them did.

I was a respectable grammar school boy who, give or take a tricky gerund, could translate from the Latin Ovid's Pyramus and Thisbe.

He made a name for himself as a fearless leader. Extracted from 'Congratulations, You've Just Met the ICF', by Cass Pennant (published by John Blake Publishing on 4 April, £15.99). I want Gardner!' Bill was purely a West Ham man who had no time for wasters. There were far-right morons in the Firm obviously but even he said they left out their politics when it came to football and accepted him because he was West Ham. But when the real hard men got among the Stamford Bridge mob, they dismissed Chelsea as singers. I can't remember the name but we stayed overnight at 'Upton Park'. Prime members enjoy FREE Delivery and exclusive access to music, movies, TV shows, original audio series, and Kindle books. Pennant writes about that night in his book. Community to your comment. The word simply wouldn't form. Football Specials, Brighton seafront – you name it. Pennant's is not a football book. Despite my mother's anxiety, even in those grim days when every Saturday afternoon saw outbreaks of crowd trouble in English football, violence could always be avoided. 11. Whatever, Ikoli admits there was a real buzz knowing you were being accepted by another culture and that this culture hated you: "Everything at West Ham in those days was pure racism, but they accepted you and stuck by you, even when the skinheads were singing 'Ain't no black in the Union Jack'.". [3][7][8] The aim of this police operation was to bring football hooligans to justice.

You lost your battle, we're going to win ours.". Cass was accepted with the ICF while being a large black man raised by a white family. Bradderswhu Global Moderator We Are The Firm.

Sharing the full story, not just the headlines. His telling of those battles comes across as honest and, believe it or not, humble. Bill Gardner (born 29 January 1954) is an English football supporter, former football hooligan and co-author of books on football hooliganism.. Born in Hornchurch, Essex, Gardner came to prominence in the 1970s as a supporter of West Ham United and as a member of the Mile End Boys and not firm, the I.C.F.. Gardner was arrested by the Metropolitan police in 1987 as part of Operation Fulltime. Please anyone know where this was originally posted? Bill Gardner has only ever been himself - and that's what made his mark on football culture so great. I'm doing a better job than you. View Billy Gardner’s profile on LinkedIn, the world's largest professional community. The Inter City Firm (ICF) is an English football hooligan firm mainly active in the 1970s, 1980s and early 1990s, associated with West Ham United.

Cass Pennant describes some great battles with them in his ICF book. There is, in fact, scarcely any mention in the book of West Ham the team, although there is a revealing account of an exchange between Swallow and the West Ham player Frank Lampard, during a pitch invasion at Birmingham City, after the Hammers had lost an FA Cup tie. We've passed all the Chelsea pubs, giving them the once-over... Nobody in them except Chelsea fans who don't want to know. The ICF also make a return as the GSE in Green Street 3: Never Back Down. Everyone respected him and you needed him on your side.

It allows our most engaged readers to debate the big issues, share their own experiences, discuss The next thing – the Old Bill pushed them away. Create a commenting name to join the debate. bit tangential but what are those soppy mugs over at WHFTV going to do on their next set of post match vox pops?

Chelsea had a firm renowned throughout the country. You can find our Community Guidelines in full here. Paul Row, 38, is a notorious member of the ICF. This became, "Congratulations you've just met the famous ICF", when the ICF were the subject of a Thames Television documentary, Hooligan, which featured ICF members including Cass Pennant. "I've been going there since '73," Swallow elaborates. We suggest moving this party over to a full size window. He arrived to rally the troops, the main man in the Inter City Firm and his greeting passed into football fan history. There was an error retrieving your Wish Lists. They finally got in a large battle when the ICF trapped them in a dark section. Start your Independent Premium subscription today. Good Afternoon, Gentlemen, the Name’s Bill Gardner He arrived to rally the troops, the main man in the InterCity Firm and his greeting passed into football fan history. Find all the books, read about the author, and more. Posts: 16,777,215 BILL GARDNER Feb 16, 2006 21:30:30 GMT 1 . His cutting ties with club is going to be very meaningful to a lot of people from the East End. No hype, just the advice and analysis you need, Register with your social account or click here to log in, Not, of course, that "supporters" is quite the word. Equally, violence could always be found, which Pennant and the ICF made it their business to do. You make sure you've no colours on show as you pass quickly by the away supporters' entrance to Chelsea's North Stand... We were a procession of Doc Martens. Though Gardner does indulge in some whining and some defensive CYA rhetoric, his book exceeds the genre's standards because he actually speaks about the game and its players as much as the aggro that occurred off the pitch. "And I always end up... getting hit on the head with a brick and such like.". Most of these books have very little to say about the game at all. His arms came up and he pulled himself into my part of the Shed. The ICF are also suggested in the 2009 film Green Street 2: Stand Your Ground.

11. Then you can start reading Kindle books on your smartphone, tablet, or computer - no Kindle device required. ISBN 978-1-904034-85-8. Carlton Leach was a member of West Ham's ICF. Due to the sheer scale of this comment community, we are not able to give each post Select Post; Deselect Post; Members of the ICF were used as consultants on the film. Having done quite a few Hornchurch away trips over the years. [1] The 2005 film Green Street was based on the ICF, but not by name. [14] This mirrors a real life incident where Gardner himself had hot tea thrown over him by Manchester United fans. 'active' : ''"> 'active' : ''"> Vietnam, Custer's Last Stand, and the films Gladiator and Zulu are all evoked in the descriptions by him and other ICF members of fights with opposing supporters. The title of Pennant's book refers to the message printed on the grotesque calling cards deposited with victims by members of West Ham's so-called InterCity Firm, of which Pennant was a leading "general".

Good Afternoon Gentlemen, The Name's Bill Gardner.

Gary Oldman plays Bex Bissell, the leader of the ICC - Inter City Crew. Bill Gardner of Beaver Plastics Ltd. introduces a building product called Logix ICF, discusses the pro’s and con’s relative to other traditional building materials, and gets you started with how to properly handle and install Logix ICF. BromleyWHU. will be published daily in dedicated articles. Stoic and strong and always defending the weak. 'active' : ''"> Congratulations You Have Just Met the ICF. "You've got to give One-Arm Babs his front, because he called it on: 'Where's Bill Gardner [the West Ham terrace legend]? "You're going home," we sang, right arms raised in tribal unity, "in a combine harvester!" I told him to eff off. I was at the Bill Gardner signing in some workman's club last year.

Gardner was arrested by the Metropolitan police in 1987 as part of Operation Fulltime. The existing Open Comments threads will continue to exist for those who do not subscribe to We work hard to protect your security and privacy. I had always been nervously respectful of authority, at least since my friend Heppy and I had tried to nick a Mars bar and a Twix from Boots in Chapel Street, Southport, and got caught by the female store detective. Instead, the initials GSE (Green Street Elite) were used. See the complete profile on LinkedIn and discover Bill’s … There was another stand off, but the Old Bill got in the middle and that was it. We were all itching, scanning One-Arm Babs, thinking the first one in on him could be a new name to talk about when the time came to recite the story of the day. They played on Top of the Pops in West Ham's colours of claret and blue.

[15], "1987: Police crack down on soccer hooligans", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bill_Gardner_(football_hooligan)&oldid=984369238, Wikipedia articles with WORLDCATID identifiers, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License, This page was last edited on 19 October 2020, at 19:16.

Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Everything that embodied the club, like everything that made that beloved relative is gone. It was the one time when our different philosophies as football supporters clashed. feels like there's been a hostile takeover of the support and everyone on the club gravy train knows it.

continue to respect all commenters and create constructive debates. [12][13] • Pennant, Cass (18 August 2003). Chelsea would be waiting in the Shed for us, or in the courtyard entrance to the Shed. All pictures © PA. As far as I know, none of them did.

I was a respectable grammar school boy who, give or take a tricky gerund, could translate from the Latin Ovid's Pyramus and Thisbe.

He made a name for himself as a fearless leader. Extracted from 'Congratulations, You've Just Met the ICF', by Cass Pennant (published by John Blake Publishing on 4 April, £15.99). I want Gardner!' Bill was purely a West Ham man who had no time for wasters. There were far-right morons in the Firm obviously but even he said they left out their politics when it came to football and accepted him because he was West Ham. But when the real hard men got among the Stamford Bridge mob, they dismissed Chelsea as singers. I can't remember the name but we stayed overnight at 'Upton Park'. Prime members enjoy FREE Delivery and exclusive access to music, movies, TV shows, original audio series, and Kindle books. Pennant writes about that night in his book. Community to your comment. The word simply wouldn't form. Football Specials, Brighton seafront – you name it. Pennant's is not a football book. Despite my mother's anxiety, even in those grim days when every Saturday afternoon saw outbreaks of crowd trouble in English football, violence could always be avoided. 11. Whatever, Ikoli admits there was a real buzz knowing you were being accepted by another culture and that this culture hated you: "Everything at West Ham in those days was pure racism, but they accepted you and stuck by you, even when the skinheads were singing 'Ain't no black in the Union Jack'.". [3][7][8] The aim of this police operation was to bring football hooligans to justice.

You lost your battle, we're going to win ours.". Cass was accepted with the ICF while being a large black man raised by a white family. Bradderswhu Global Moderator We Are The Firm.

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