Though you can purchase one without a scope and mount your own (or use iron sights), it’s also available in a packages that includes a mounted and bore sighted Leupold scope. The only way to tell for sure is to try it out for yourself. First, the Paramount is a .45 caliber muzzleloader designed to use up to 140 grains of Blackhorn 209 powder. 11 caps, even magnums. Add it all up, and the Traditions Vortek Strikerfire LDR is a very well designed modern muzzleloader that’s lightweight, easy to carry, and is capable of excellent accuracy. This commission comes at no extra cost to you.

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I'm curious as to what experiences other Hunttalkers have had with these outfits. It has the higher quality, Bergara barrel. Make sure you subscribe to The Big Game Hunting Podcast and follow The Big Game Hunting Blog on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube. Barnes SpitFire T-EZ 250 grain bullet over 2 White Hots pellets gives me a 1-1.5" group at 100 yards.

The LR (long-range) 28” barrel provides better velocity than the standard Optima V2 barrel, so you can maintain proper knockdown power at … So, if you want a rugged and accurate muzzleloader with reduced recoil, even when shooting magnum loads, then you should really check out the Thompson Center Triumph Bone Collector.

The version of the CVA Accura pictured here features a Durasight scope mount, but it’s also drilled and tapped for open sights. Hi Arthur. Finally, the CVA Wolf is very reasonably priced and is one of the best value muzzleloaders in North America. At my local shop I have heard good things about both, but would like some more input.

I'm curious as to what experiences other Hunttalkers have had with these outfits. The options I am looking at are the CVA Wolf Northwest, CVA Optima Northwest, and the Traditions Vortex Northwest. The Traditions Buckstalker Youth comes factory with iron sights and is drilled and tapped for a scope. The Optima Elite is a bargain compared to the T/C Encore.

Second, the muzzleloader uses special adapters that permit the use of large rifle primers for hotter, more consistent, and faster ignition than with standard 209 primers. Theres just some minor changes with the v2 like the breaking lever. The Remington UML made a giant splash when it hit the market a few years ago and was easily the best long range muzzleloader in mass production for many years. I really wished the mountain rifle version would have felt as good in my hands but it didn't. Can't even get $150 for it, and it's stainless. Thompson Center claims that the stock compresses slightly during recoil and can reduce felt recoil by 43%.

Or are these 1 bullet guns?

Welcome to the realtree family.Both are good guns.I have owned the optima,good shooting but a little heavy.Stepson had the wolf,not as acurate at long distance as the optima but lighter to carry.We both sold our guns and got the t/c omega.I like the thumbhole stock and topped it off with a nikon omega bdc scope.I haven't shot 250 yards buy the 200 mark is dead on.Go to a shop and shoulder as many ml's as you can.Buy the one that fits you and your wallet the best.Good luck.

Traditions also produces this exact hunting rifle in a kit with a percussion ignition system. Thompson Center has long been known for producing some of the best muzzleloaders around and their Triumph line is one of their best selling models (no disrespect at all to the Thompson Center Pro Hunter FX, which is also a great muzzleloader). So, there can be a big swing in which muzzleloaders are legal to hunt with from year to year. I have an optima that has been pretty awesome. I owned the v1 optima and still own the v1 wolf. At my local shop I have heard good things about both, but would like some more input.

This is one of the best muzzleloaders CVA currently produces for all around elk and deer hunting. bigbuster, If youre looking for a cheap smoke pole to hunt deer with and youre not after the latest and greatest it will serve you well. We require that all new users contribute at least 10 posts before gaining the ability to start new threads.

It prefers the 777 pellets and 295gr Powerbelt bullets. You have the option also to change barrels and calibers that the Wolf does not give you.

This muzzleloader features a 30″ Bergara barrel.

To see what other stuff is on the list, check out the following article: After I had the close call I mentioned earlier, I did some more research on good muzzleloaders and discovered the CVA Wolf.

Instead, the user simply inserts the FireStick, which is basically a container with a pre-measured powder charge, in the breech. Can't go wrong.

It is a economy minded smokepole.   Pasted as rich text. Will update when I buy one. Speaking of the Remington 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader (UML), it’s still a great option for a long range muzzleloader. Buy your own Traditions Vortek Strikerfire LDR here. For more detailed information on choosing the right primer, propellant, bullets, sights, and scopes, check out these other articles: 15 Of The Best Muzzleloader Primers For Igniting Your Powder.

Buy your own Thompson Center Impact muzzleloader here.

You can actually buy the wolf with the same stock and such as the optima. Clean it after every outing. From what I understand it is just about half the price of the T/C. Combined with the high velocities (over 2,200fps) that can be obtained by using 140 grains of powder, this results in a very flat bullet trajectory for a muzzleloader that rivals the trajectory of some centerfire rifle cartridges.

Finally, the CVA Paramount is not considered a firearm under federal law. All of the CVA Optima V2’s weigh in at 6.65 pounds. December 12, 2009 in Bluelk's Muzzleloader Room. That doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with the Remington 700 UML though. CVA. The Optima has a nice thumbhole stock and a bit longer barrel than the Wolf. Easy cleaning. Feb 18, 2014 I’ve gotten 1″ -2″ patterns from that combo at 50 yds (from a bench). So even resale on Traditions pales in comparison. You are using an out of date browser.

Unfortunately, I’m not aware of any .54 caliber inline muzzleloaders. The cheapest CVA is better than the best Traditions. Instead of a musket cap or a standard 209 primer, the Remington UML uses a special brass magnum rifle casing and a standard magnum rifle primer. I have never owned a ML or even shot one, so If you have owned either or both, please enlighten me.

Better velocities. Buy your own Remington 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader here.

Finally, the barrel is also treated with Nitride finish technology (also known as Salt Bath Nitride) for even better corrosion resistance than a typical stainless steel barrel. If you are looking for a budget setup, I recommend it. Also look here for great muzzleloading info. This results in noticeably faster lock times and also allows hunters to mount their scope closer to the bore. When I was ready to make the purchase again a couple of weeks later, I discovered that the manufacturer had discontinued the model I was about to buy during the interim. Sabots and conical bullets probably won’t shoot very well in this muzzleloader, but part of the fun that comes from using a primitive muzzleloader is hunting with a plain ol’ round ball.

Weight. This muzzleloader also has a great, adjustable two-stage trigger that comes from the factory set at two pounds.

They made that decision for several reasons, but I discovered later that the muzzleloader suffered from overall poor quality and subpar performance afield.

Tip: You can fit two extra primers in the screw holes of the butt pad.

I would avoid the Traditions based on the experiences of my dad and a couple friends of mine. However, like the CVA Wolf, while the Impact is a great muzzleloader for those who are new to the muzzleloader world, it’s still quite capable and will work very well for the vast majority of muzzleloader hunters. However, the Bone Collector also incorporates black traction grip panels on the forend, a great recoil pad, and what T/C calls a “Flex Tech” stock.

I haven’t gone to casting my own bullets yet, but do you have any old wheel weights?

So, the new muzzle brake (which is specifically designed for use on the Paramount) will be a welcome accessory for many hunters.

It is a bit heavy, but for the money you wont find anything that shoots better.

Thanks for your support. It was pretty dam cheap and it has been really accurate and reliable. While this post covers choosing the right muzzleloader, that’s only a single part of the equation when hunting with a muzzleloader. The last thing any hunter wants is to purchase a poor quality muzzleloader or one that’s not legal to use during muzzleloading season where they hunt. Better velocities. × For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.

Though Jim Shockey is one of the most famous hunters who uses T/C muzzleloaders, this particular model has a stamp of approval from Michael Waddell. The Impact is T/Cs entry level muzzleloader. The Wolf is CVAs entry level muzzleloader below the CVA Optima V2 and Accura V2. For that reason, I’m sharing my picks of the best muzzleloaders for hunters in 2020 so you can make an informed decision and choose the best muzzleloader for your specific hunting situation. i have optima put 2 rounds through same hole today but have missed 4 deer last 2 days because of misfires sometimes muzzleoading is frustrating. However, while it is indeed an excellent break action muzzleloader for those who are new to the muzzleloader world, it’s still a very capable muzzleloader and is not limited to new hunters and will work perfectly for the vast majority of muzzleloader hunters. I love my Optima Elite. Especially when the very reasonable price of the muzzleloader is taken into account, the Traditions Buckstalker Youth is clearly one of the best youth muzzleloaders out there.

And for $220 shipped to my house with a scope, I can not complain in the least.

Though you can purchase one without a scope and mount your own (or use iron sights), it’s also available in a packages that includes a mounted and bore sighted Leupold scope. The only way to tell for sure is to try it out for yourself. First, the Paramount is a .45 caliber muzzleloader designed to use up to 140 grains of Blackhorn 209 powder. 11 caps, even magnums. Add it all up, and the Traditions Vortek Strikerfire LDR is a very well designed modern muzzleloader that’s lightweight, easy to carry, and is capable of excellent accuracy. This commission comes at no extra cost to you.

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I'm curious as to what experiences other Hunttalkers have had with these outfits. It has the higher quality, Bergara barrel. Make sure you subscribe to The Big Game Hunting Podcast and follow The Big Game Hunting Blog on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube. Barnes SpitFire T-EZ 250 grain bullet over 2 White Hots pellets gives me a 1-1.5" group at 100 yards.

The LR (long-range) 28” barrel provides better velocity than the standard Optima V2 barrel, so you can maintain proper knockdown power at … So, if you want a rugged and accurate muzzleloader with reduced recoil, even when shooting magnum loads, then you should really check out the Thompson Center Triumph Bone Collector.

The version of the CVA Accura pictured here features a Durasight scope mount, but it’s also drilled and tapped for open sights. Hi Arthur. Finally, the CVA Wolf is very reasonably priced and is one of the best value muzzleloaders in North America. At my local shop I have heard good things about both, but would like some more input.

I'm curious as to what experiences other Hunttalkers have had with these outfits. The options I am looking at are the CVA Wolf Northwest, CVA Optima Northwest, and the Traditions Vortex Northwest. The Traditions Buckstalker Youth comes factory with iron sights and is drilled and tapped for a scope. The Optima Elite is a bargain compared to the T/C Encore.

Second, the muzzleloader uses special adapters that permit the use of large rifle primers for hotter, more consistent, and faster ignition than with standard 209 primers. Theres just some minor changes with the v2 like the breaking lever. The Remington UML made a giant splash when it hit the market a few years ago and was easily the best long range muzzleloader in mass production for many years. I really wished the mountain rifle version would have felt as good in my hands but it didn't. Can't even get $150 for it, and it's stainless. Thompson Center claims that the stock compresses slightly during recoil and can reduce felt recoil by 43%.

Or are these 1 bullet guns?

Welcome to the realtree family.Both are good guns.I have owned the optima,good shooting but a little heavy.Stepson had the wolf,not as acurate at long distance as the optima but lighter to carry.We both sold our guns and got the t/c omega.I like the thumbhole stock and topped it off with a nikon omega bdc scope.I haven't shot 250 yards buy the 200 mark is dead on.Go to a shop and shoulder as many ml's as you can.Buy the one that fits you and your wallet the best.Good luck.

Traditions also produces this exact hunting rifle in a kit with a percussion ignition system. Thompson Center has long been known for producing some of the best muzzleloaders around and their Triumph line is one of their best selling models (no disrespect at all to the Thompson Center Pro Hunter FX, which is also a great muzzleloader). So, there can be a big swing in which muzzleloaders are legal to hunt with from year to year. I have an optima that has been pretty awesome. I owned the v1 optima and still own the v1 wolf. At my local shop I have heard good things about both, but would like some more input.

This is one of the best muzzleloaders CVA currently produces for all around elk and deer hunting. bigbuster, If youre looking for a cheap smoke pole to hunt deer with and youre not after the latest and greatest it will serve you well. We require that all new users contribute at least 10 posts before gaining the ability to start new threads.

It prefers the 777 pellets and 295gr Powerbelt bullets. You have the option also to change barrels and calibers that the Wolf does not give you.

This muzzleloader features a 30″ Bergara barrel.

To see what other stuff is on the list, check out the following article: After I had the close call I mentioned earlier, I did some more research on good muzzleloaders and discovered the CVA Wolf.

Instead, the user simply inserts the FireStick, which is basically a container with a pre-measured powder charge, in the breech. Can't go wrong.

It is a economy minded smokepole.   Pasted as rich text. Will update when I buy one. Speaking of the Remington 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader (UML), it’s still a great option for a long range muzzleloader. Buy your own Traditions Vortek Strikerfire LDR here. For more detailed information on choosing the right primer, propellant, bullets, sights, and scopes, check out these other articles: 15 Of The Best Muzzleloader Primers For Igniting Your Powder.

Buy your own Thompson Center Impact muzzleloader here.

You can actually buy the wolf with the same stock and such as the optima. Clean it after every outing. From what I understand it is just about half the price of the T/C. Combined with the high velocities (over 2,200fps) that can be obtained by using 140 grains of powder, this results in a very flat bullet trajectory for a muzzleloader that rivals the trajectory of some centerfire rifle cartridges.

Finally, the CVA Paramount is not considered a firearm under federal law. All of the CVA Optima V2’s weigh in at 6.65 pounds. December 12, 2009 in Bluelk's Muzzleloader Room. That doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with the Remington 700 UML though. CVA. The Optima has a nice thumbhole stock and a bit longer barrel than the Wolf. Easy cleaning. Feb 18, 2014 I’ve gotten 1″ -2″ patterns from that combo at 50 yds (from a bench). So even resale on Traditions pales in comparison. You are using an out of date browser.

Unfortunately, I’m not aware of any .54 caliber inline muzzleloaders. The cheapest CVA is better than the best Traditions. Instead of a musket cap or a standard 209 primer, the Remington UML uses a special brass magnum rifle casing and a standard magnum rifle primer. I have never owned a ML or even shot one, so If you have owned either or both, please enlighten me.

Better velocities. Buy your own Remington 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader here.

Finally, the barrel is also treated with Nitride finish technology (also known as Salt Bath Nitride) for even better corrosion resistance than a typical stainless steel barrel. If you are looking for a budget setup, I recommend it. Also look here for great muzzleloading info. This results in noticeably faster lock times and also allows hunters to mount their scope closer to the bore. When I was ready to make the purchase again a couple of weeks later, I discovered that the manufacturer had discontinued the model I was about to buy during the interim. Sabots and conical bullets probably won’t shoot very well in this muzzleloader, but part of the fun that comes from using a primitive muzzleloader is hunting with a plain ol’ round ball.

Weight. This muzzleloader also has a great, adjustable two-stage trigger that comes from the factory set at two pounds.

They made that decision for several reasons, but I discovered later that the muzzleloader suffered from overall poor quality and subpar performance afield.

Tip: You can fit two extra primers in the screw holes of the butt pad.

I would avoid the Traditions based on the experiences of my dad and a couple friends of mine. However, like the CVA Wolf, while the Impact is a great muzzleloader for those who are new to the muzzleloader world, it’s still quite capable and will work very well for the vast majority of muzzleloader hunters. However, the Bone Collector also incorporates black traction grip panels on the forend, a great recoil pad, and what T/C calls a “Flex Tech” stock.

I haven’t gone to casting my own bullets yet, but do you have any old wheel weights?

So, the new muzzle brake (which is specifically designed for use on the Paramount) will be a welcome accessory for many hunters.

It is a bit heavy, but for the money you wont find anything that shoots better.

Thanks for your support. It was pretty dam cheap and it has been really accurate and reliable. While this post covers choosing the right muzzleloader, that’s only a single part of the equation when hunting with a muzzleloader. The last thing any hunter wants is to purchase a poor quality muzzleloader or one that’s not legal to use during muzzleloading season where they hunt. Better velocities. × For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.

Though Jim Shockey is one of the most famous hunters who uses T/C muzzleloaders, this particular model has a stamp of approval from Michael Waddell. The Impact is T/Cs entry level muzzleloader. The Wolf is CVAs entry level muzzleloader below the CVA Optima V2 and Accura V2. For that reason, I’m sharing my picks of the best muzzleloaders for hunters in 2020 so you can make an informed decision and choose the best muzzleloader for your specific hunting situation. i have optima put 2 rounds through same hole today but have missed 4 deer last 2 days because of misfires sometimes muzzleoading is frustrating. However, while it is indeed an excellent break action muzzleloader for those who are new to the muzzleloader world, it’s still a very capable muzzleloader and is not limited to new hunters and will work perfectly for the vast majority of muzzleloader hunters. I love my Optima Elite. Especially when the very reasonable price of the muzzleloader is taken into account, the Traditions Buckstalker Youth is clearly one of the best youth muzzleloaders out there.

And for $220 shipped to my house with a scope, I can not complain in the least.

Though you can purchase one without a scope and mount your own (or use iron sights), it’s also available in a packages that includes a mounted and bore sighted Leupold scope. The only way to tell for sure is to try it out for yourself. First, the Paramount is a .45 caliber muzzleloader designed to use up to 140 grains of Blackhorn 209 powder. 11 caps, even magnums. Add it all up, and the Traditions Vortek Strikerfire LDR is a very well designed modern muzzleloader that’s lightweight, easy to carry, and is capable of excellent accuracy. This commission comes at no extra cost to you.

JavaScript is disabled.

I'm curious as to what experiences other Hunttalkers have had with these outfits. It has the higher quality, Bergara barrel. Make sure you subscribe to The Big Game Hunting Podcast and follow The Big Game Hunting Blog on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube. Barnes SpitFire T-EZ 250 grain bullet over 2 White Hots pellets gives me a 1-1.5" group at 100 yards.

The LR (long-range) 28” barrel provides better velocity than the standard Optima V2 barrel, so you can maintain proper knockdown power at … So, if you want a rugged and accurate muzzleloader with reduced recoil, even when shooting magnum loads, then you should really check out the Thompson Center Triumph Bone Collector.

The version of the CVA Accura pictured here features a Durasight scope mount, but it’s also drilled and tapped for open sights. Hi Arthur. Finally, the CVA Wolf is very reasonably priced and is one of the best value muzzleloaders in North America. At my local shop I have heard good things about both, but would like some more input.

I'm curious as to what experiences other Hunttalkers have had with these outfits. The options I am looking at are the CVA Wolf Northwest, CVA Optima Northwest, and the Traditions Vortex Northwest. The Traditions Buckstalker Youth comes factory with iron sights and is drilled and tapped for a scope. The Optima Elite is a bargain compared to the T/C Encore.

Second, the muzzleloader uses special adapters that permit the use of large rifle primers for hotter, more consistent, and faster ignition than with standard 209 primers. Theres just some minor changes with the v2 like the breaking lever. The Remington UML made a giant splash when it hit the market a few years ago and was easily the best long range muzzleloader in mass production for many years. I really wished the mountain rifle version would have felt as good in my hands but it didn't. Can't even get $150 for it, and it's stainless. Thompson Center claims that the stock compresses slightly during recoil and can reduce felt recoil by 43%.

Or are these 1 bullet guns?

Welcome to the realtree family.Both are good guns.I have owned the optima,good shooting but a little heavy.Stepson had the wolf,not as acurate at long distance as the optima but lighter to carry.We both sold our guns and got the t/c omega.I like the thumbhole stock and topped it off with a nikon omega bdc scope.I haven't shot 250 yards buy the 200 mark is dead on.Go to a shop and shoulder as many ml's as you can.Buy the one that fits you and your wallet the best.Good luck.

Traditions also produces this exact hunting rifle in a kit with a percussion ignition system. Thompson Center has long been known for producing some of the best muzzleloaders around and their Triumph line is one of their best selling models (no disrespect at all to the Thompson Center Pro Hunter FX, which is also a great muzzleloader). So, there can be a big swing in which muzzleloaders are legal to hunt with from year to year. I have an optima that has been pretty awesome. I owned the v1 optima and still own the v1 wolf. At my local shop I have heard good things about both, but would like some more input.

This is one of the best muzzleloaders CVA currently produces for all around elk and deer hunting. bigbuster, If youre looking for a cheap smoke pole to hunt deer with and youre not after the latest and greatest it will serve you well. We require that all new users contribute at least 10 posts before gaining the ability to start new threads.

It prefers the 777 pellets and 295gr Powerbelt bullets. You have the option also to change barrels and calibers that the Wolf does not give you.

This muzzleloader features a 30″ Bergara barrel.

To see what other stuff is on the list, check out the following article: After I had the close call I mentioned earlier, I did some more research on good muzzleloaders and discovered the CVA Wolf.

Instead, the user simply inserts the FireStick, which is basically a container with a pre-measured powder charge, in the breech. Can't go wrong.

It is a economy minded smokepole.   Pasted as rich text. Will update when I buy one. Speaking of the Remington 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader (UML), it’s still a great option for a long range muzzleloader. Buy your own Traditions Vortek Strikerfire LDR here. For more detailed information on choosing the right primer, propellant, bullets, sights, and scopes, check out these other articles: 15 Of The Best Muzzleloader Primers For Igniting Your Powder.

Buy your own Thompson Center Impact muzzleloader here.

You can actually buy the wolf with the same stock and such as the optima. Clean it after every outing. From what I understand it is just about half the price of the T/C. Combined with the high velocities (over 2,200fps) that can be obtained by using 140 grains of powder, this results in a very flat bullet trajectory for a muzzleloader that rivals the trajectory of some centerfire rifle cartridges.

Finally, the CVA Paramount is not considered a firearm under federal law. All of the CVA Optima V2’s weigh in at 6.65 pounds. December 12, 2009 in Bluelk's Muzzleloader Room. That doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with the Remington 700 UML though. CVA. The Optima has a nice thumbhole stock and a bit longer barrel than the Wolf. Easy cleaning. Feb 18, 2014 I’ve gotten 1″ -2″ patterns from that combo at 50 yds (from a bench). So even resale on Traditions pales in comparison. You are using an out of date browser.

Unfortunately, I’m not aware of any .54 caliber inline muzzleloaders. The cheapest CVA is better than the best Traditions. Instead of a musket cap or a standard 209 primer, the Remington UML uses a special brass magnum rifle casing and a standard magnum rifle primer. I have never owned a ML or even shot one, so If you have owned either or both, please enlighten me.

Better velocities. Buy your own Remington 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader here.

Finally, the barrel is also treated with Nitride finish technology (also known as Salt Bath Nitride) for even better corrosion resistance than a typical stainless steel barrel. If you are looking for a budget setup, I recommend it. Also look here for great muzzleloading info. This results in noticeably faster lock times and also allows hunters to mount their scope closer to the bore. When I was ready to make the purchase again a couple of weeks later, I discovered that the manufacturer had discontinued the model I was about to buy during the interim. Sabots and conical bullets probably won’t shoot very well in this muzzleloader, but part of the fun that comes from using a primitive muzzleloader is hunting with a plain ol’ round ball.

Weight. This muzzleloader also has a great, adjustable two-stage trigger that comes from the factory set at two pounds.

They made that decision for several reasons, but I discovered later that the muzzleloader suffered from overall poor quality and subpar performance afield.

Tip: You can fit two extra primers in the screw holes of the butt pad.

I would avoid the Traditions based on the experiences of my dad and a couple friends of mine. However, like the CVA Wolf, while the Impact is a great muzzleloader for those who are new to the muzzleloader world, it’s still quite capable and will work very well for the vast majority of muzzleloader hunters. However, the Bone Collector also incorporates black traction grip panels on the forend, a great recoil pad, and what T/C calls a “Flex Tech” stock.

I haven’t gone to casting my own bullets yet, but do you have any old wheel weights?

So, the new muzzle brake (which is specifically designed for use on the Paramount) will be a welcome accessory for many hunters.

It is a bit heavy, but for the money you wont find anything that shoots better.

Thanks for your support. It was pretty dam cheap and it has been really accurate and reliable. While this post covers choosing the right muzzleloader, that’s only a single part of the equation when hunting with a muzzleloader. The last thing any hunter wants is to purchase a poor quality muzzleloader or one that’s not legal to use during muzzleloading season where they hunt. Better velocities. × For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.

Though Jim Shockey is one of the most famous hunters who uses T/C muzzleloaders, this particular model has a stamp of approval from Michael Waddell. The Impact is T/Cs entry level muzzleloader. The Wolf is CVAs entry level muzzleloader below the CVA Optima V2 and Accura V2. For that reason, I’m sharing my picks of the best muzzleloaders for hunters in 2020 so you can make an informed decision and choose the best muzzleloader for your specific hunting situation. i have optima put 2 rounds through same hole today but have missed 4 deer last 2 days because of misfires sometimes muzzleoading is frustrating. However, while it is indeed an excellent break action muzzleloader for those who are new to the muzzleloader world, it’s still a very capable muzzleloader and is not limited to new hunters and will work perfectly for the vast majority of muzzleloader hunters. I love my Optima Elite. Especially when the very reasonable price of the muzzleloader is taken into account, the Traditions Buckstalker Youth is clearly one of the best youth muzzleloaders out there.

And for $220 shipped to my house with a scope, I can not complain in the least.

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