I love big pens and my choice is between Montblanc 149 and Pelikan M1000. I could also go for a used MB 149 for around 350€ or a Pelikan Souverän M800 for less than 300€ (this one says it's "no used"). I am just sort of wanting to get more info from people. Todos los derechos reservados. Both are elegant, although I prefer the Pelikan in that regard, because I already have a couple of cigar shaped, black and gold pens. Depends on if you want a pen for writing or for showing off to others. I can't imagine spending that much money on a pen and being treated that way. I have yet to hear that about Pelikan (I’m sure it happens but I guess with less frequency?) Here's a couple of (really bad cell phone) pictures of an M800 and a 146 next to each other if it helps on the size: Of the two, I prefer the 146 slightly. Be aware that the M800 nib, although it is 18k, is pretty stiff. Lightweight and easy to write a lot with? I really gotta get an M1000 someday If you like pens with a tad of springy, do it now and you will not regret! The differences between the Montblanc 146 and 149 are length and girth. Los pros y los contras ya te los han comentado, ambas son cómodas para escribir. Pelikan M800 y MontBlanc 146, me ayudais a elegir una de las 2... Pelikan M800 y MontBlanc 146, me ayudais a elegir una de las 2... - Estilográficas, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfyGTNAr6eY. My price range is initially around 400€/$ (I'm in Europe) and I'm thinking on Pelikans (M600 or M800) or MBs (146 or some Chopin/Mozart special editions -145s, are they?-). Many times it won’t even need that, and you could end up with a great pen for under $250. /r/fountainpens - A community for fountain pen enthusiasts, from the novice to the collector. I've hold a 149 and, although I don't have large hands, I think it's pretty comfortable. I prefer fine nibs in general, because I have quite small writing. It stung my wallet a bit, but not as bad as, say, losing a Pelikan M800, MB 146, or even a Sailor Pro Gear. Como te dice Ondina, ambas son excelentes plumas. They're both felt-tipped markers, the 146 is a B and the 800 is a BB so it's not really helpful for advising on smaller nib sizes rofl. The differences between the Montblanc 146 and 149 are length and girth. Not sure if this matters to you or not, but Pelikan discontinued the BB and BBB. I love the look and feel of Pelikan pens, so I really think you can't go wrong with the M800! Something you only sign with? New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the fountainpens community. Ambas son muy buenos instrumentos de escritura de casas con gran prestigio y tradición, aspecto profesional y sobrio y unos plumines estupendos. Also the rather small Pelikan M200/400 hold 1.3ml/1.4 ink which is comparable with the significantly bigger pens M600 and M800 from the same brand (both 1,3ml). Both are great, can't go wrong with either. I think this is a good price (and an F nib, which is what I need). That seems very cheap for an M800, by almost a factor of two. I have an M800 that is absolutely amazing. I think the pen that I have that I like the best is my sailor 1911L medium fine. It could be pretty much any color though I am a big fan of two toned nibs. The question is whatre you looking for... the shapes and profiles of all these pens are different and the nibs are different. Press J to jump to the feed. I think you should go to a brick and mortar store and hold them yourself. Used 1980’s or earlier 146 will not disappoint you, you can easily buy one used and have it factory refurbished for under $300. Sold off my Montblancs, and most of my other pens. Yo también prefiero primero la pelikan, pero la MB es un clásico que no puede faltar. I’ve read from people here and on other sites that do reviews of FPs that Montblanc can have a skipping problem or other issues. Pepillo. I just prefer Pelikan. As Chrissy pointed out, the Montblanc 149 is a big pen. That was very useful, thanks. Page 2 of 6 - Montblanc 146 Vs Pelikan M800 - posted in Fountain Pen Reviews: Nice comparison of two iconic pens. Page 3 of 6 - Montblanc 146 Vs Pelikan M800 - posted in Fountain Pen Reviews: ya, i regret writing it, it was sunday morning and i felt comedic. I'm thinking of buying a new fountain pen and my collection is based mostly on japanese (Nakaya, Sailor, Pilot) and some Waterman/Parker/Lamy pens, so I'm lacking some of these classic german pens. Thanks for the info! Because of how frequently I use the Lamy 2000 (near daily, or at least weekly), and given the context in which I use the pen (meetings, conferences, seminars, hotels, etc.) I am looking to get my first Pelikan and can't decide between the two. Yeah this is by no means my first fountain pen. The M100X and 149 are oversized pens. This site uses cookies to improve your experience and to help show ads that are more relevant to your interests. Others might suggest something else. I'm not much into wider nibs, but I have a sailor music to play with. This was a great decision: definitely one of my best writers, my favorite one right now, I'd say. Press J to jump to the feed. En cuanto a plumines, los F de MB son un poco más gruesos que los de pelikan. 28-ago-2010, 22:42 #1. /r/fountainpens - A community for fountain pen enthusiasts, from the novice to the collector. They are one of my favourite pens. You would likely consider the Pelikan M600 small and lightweight, so I would recommend the M800. Being lucky enough to own both, I find myself reaching for the Pelikan more often. The price definitely sounds better than buying a brand new one. Honestly the customer service is just horrible for me in korea. Just making sure, but you know that German nibs write much broader than Japanese nibs right? It is almost as if theyre trying to shoo me away from the shop whenever i walk in there. Lots of stuff but I am not even sure I would buy either. Seems that Montblanc is bigger than pelikan and Pelikan's nibs are more flexible than Montblanc. Can anyone share his knowledge with meregarding both founatin pens ? Both are phenomenal writers. Like what the actual hell? ! Ive got a mb 146 legrand platinum edition. El huso horario es GMT +2. For the nibs, I usually like japanese mediums of wet european fine nibs (my Lamy 2k's is great)... Pelikan nibs tend to be wider than advertised, so an F would be good I think. The 145 is thinner and uses a converter or international cartridges. I'm in two minds as to whether to buy a Montblanc 146 or a Pelikan 800. I would personally recommend a used, good-quality or New-old-stock 146, preferably from before they started using plastic feeds (~1990s). You don't say anything about whether you have experience with fountain pens and what other ones you own, and what qualities you prefer in them. Wow. With the 146 you get a piston filler that will be the perfect size for most hands. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, http://pens.kbeezie.com/post/montblanc-225/. I'm leaning towards Pelikan as I find the nibs (feel wise) to not as boring as Montblanc especially for the price. Smoothness of writing is definitely the most important consideration for me, as well as general reliability. Very low ink capacities are shown in the Heritage Rouge-et-Noir-Series by Montblanc. Other pens I have looked at were Sailor 1911 tangerine special edition color or maybe an Aurora or maybe some more inexpensive pens like the new Conklin classic on gouletpens. Pelikan has more unique bodies as well. The pen may have some skipping problems or it might just be the way i write and the low quality of paper i use. Quite the dreadnought. I've never had much luck with Mont Blanc in terms of writing quality. Souverän M800: 169mm: 142mm: 13.1mm: Souverän M1000: 177mm: 147mm: 14.1mm: Pelikan rollerball pens follow the same conventions as their fountain pens and will match up size wise to the fountain pens when closed. The M1000 nib really sets it apart from most other nibs available today, as its huge (seriously, it's huge) size makes it "flex" at the slightest pressure. Pelikan M600 vs Pelikan M800. I quite confused about them. Either way i tried to get them to look at it. Whatever your size preference, the comparably sized Pelikan will be cheaper. Pelikan pens are more user servicable (i.e. F nib is a western juicy fine, just perfect. What would you choose? Not sure if this matters to you or not, but Pelikan discontinued the BB and BBB. Una particularidad del EF de MB es que va más suave que los EF de otras marcas, probablemente porque son un pelín más gruesos. If you like the wider nibs you may have to go used. i dont know. I'm more interested in writing quality than in the looks, but of course I like beautiful pens as anybody else. I hope there's no trick, as the vendor says the pen is completely new with original box. Ballpoints & Pencils. I think that's quite a perfect size for a pen. Take note that customer service might differ depending on geographical location but me personally id never buy a mb again. Dont get me wrong, the MB 146 is a great FP. The M100X and 149 are oversized pens. Is it just the word of the seller or is there a mark or feature to test for? Mayyyyybe one of the collector editions, the shakespeare pen makes me wet my pants a little. Yikes! Colors? I like the nib but sometimes wish it were broader and also maybe a bit lighter in weight. Any advice or opinions about this sort of daydream? Definitely want something that writes well and feels comfortable. A desk pen? I liked the size of the 149 and went with that one, but the Montblanc boutiques have sample 146s for you to try. Very personal, but in my opinion the Sailor is a great option. Right now I'm almost buying a green M800... about 300$, but limited stock. A grey market 146 is in your budget, as is the 145 (the Chopin - the Mozart is a different pen, and it is tiny). Have a browse around, dont limit yourself to the m800 or m1000. Especially the m805. They were trying to charge me 80% of the retail price for a refurbishment. If this is your first fountain pen, I would recommend you get neither and wait until you've developed some preferences before spending so much. I like Pelikan as well, and they have a larger instance of interesting nibs, depending on what you’re looking for. The prices and quality are similar. (and you can get some of the vintage Pelikans like a semi-flex 400NN cheaper than a new M400). The Pelikan M80X and Montblanc 146 are both large pens by themselves. This sounds terrible. Saltar a página: Resultados 1 al 10 de 13 Hilo: Pelikan M800 y MontBlanc 146, me ayudais a elegir una de las 2... - Estilográficas. To have it factory refurbished, do you send to Montblanc? Personalmente compraría ambas, pero primero la Pelikan. I have a pretty decent tax return coming my way, enough that I have been daydreaming about maybe getting a very fancy pen. They didnt explain that free nib exchanges would be void when the pen is inked. Montblanc 149 Vs. Pelikan M1000 - posted in Montblanc: Im wondering to buy a new fountain pen. You don't say anything about whether you have experience with fountain pens and what other ones … removable nib unit and piston) but montblanc's are more status symbols. How does one tell if it is from 1980s versus earlier or later? classique: 144 (slimmer C/C filler version of 146) le grand: 146 (equivalent to m800). I did not mention my personal preferences because I guess I just wanted to hear more about the experiences people have with the pens. MontBlanc 146 Parker Duofold Pelikan M800 Sailor 1911 Proft 21/Large Platinum President It is down to filling system, colors and nib size availability. So considering the above id get the pelikan. http://pens.kbeezie.com/post/pelikan-m640-mount-everest/, And the only montblanc I have is a vintage Montblanc 225 ( I used to have a 146 and a 221). By using this site, you agree to the use of cookies by Flickr and our partners as described in our cookie policy. I've a few modern + a couple old style M800s. I think the ability to service the pen is a good point of differentiation. The Pelikans are pretty much perfect to me, I don't think you will go wrong if you get one. The only modern Pelikan I kept around is a M640 Special Edition Mount Everest which I liked the feel/size of better than an M805.
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