UPDATE: And then there’s another $10,000 donated in 2014 to the Senate Democratic Victory Fund from the 2014 IFMA Form 990. Let the F’ing begin. Most likely will buy another brand instead, even though they are quite a bit more expensive.
All you will have done is forwarded the anti-gun movements agenda.
Difficult, painful but salvageable. Looking forward to Springfield Armory’s obituary. The bill has only moved through one chamber, and it is still in the process.
Like I said, I’ve got several of their guns, my favorites in fact, bought and used in good faith. Now I’ve been schooled, I’ll put them back on the potential list. Maybe they were donating to them because they supported something really cool. Maybe I’ll forgive Reese and Larson when they join him. Sometimes helping your enemy at just the right moment does more good than harm, could it be that’s what happened here?
SA and RRA willingly crawled into bed with the devil, maybe he’ll buy their wares. But I’ll damn well wait before I buy anymore SA until I see how this plays out. Both Springfield and Rock River Arms have issued statements denying any knowledge of the deal negotiated on their behalf by the lobbyist for the Illinois Firearms Manufacturing Association (IFMA). Bloomberg and his minions couldn’t put these two firearms makers out of business legislatively – not directly anyway.
If they’re guilty, hell yeah. Ok, that makes sense now.
New or used!
This is a great example of why it’s a terrible idea for gun companies to stay in states that have turned antagonistic to the second amendment.
We simply don’t know that.
That was a major reason for setting up the IFMA.
Remember the HS2000? I am not an Illinois resident but it defies belief that SA or RRA would support anti-gun legislation.
It is really simple if you want to survive and thrive you don’t screw over your customers with stuff like SB-1657. Basically, they’ve been hiding behind this shadow, sham ‘trade association’ to support Democrat politicians. When fired, it creates loud noises which alert special.
The company shares a post office box address with IFMA. James River is in the same ~2k price range as the good SAs. Thats why us illinoisans are so pissed. First round of shots are on me! LOL. The rifle has enough issues as it is without starting behind the ball due to cheap construction.
Glock has lobbyists Who do you he smoozes with in those states to get the sales? IFMA also provided a $3550 in-kind sponsorship for a fundraising golf outing organized by NRA-PVF F-rated Illinois House Speaker Michael Madigan, another anti-gun pol. Social shaming for supporting two companies that need to not exist anymore? Cheaper Than Dirt is still around. After the fact sales are an entirely different animal. http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory/100/senate/10000SB1657_04272017_037000T.pdf.
Across platforms, your favorite musicians, actors, and comedians have been speaking out against gun violence.
Birds of a feather.
I lived in the most corrupt Republican county in Illinois-Kankakee. There could be a dozen different reasons. Rock Island doesn’t jack up their prices because of a name (HS-2000…cough), nor has it adopted the GRIP ZONE on its polymer pistols…because Rock Island doesn’t manufacture polymer pistols.
Still early in the story. I do understand your anger, believe me. And secondly, if you play with the Devil, you’re going to get burned for eternity. The SA M1A was top of the list. They might have put the FFL cutouts in place so as to make it appear that SA and RRA lobbied them when it was the politicians who put the squeeze on them. I bet most would sell out the 2nd Amend for a nice fat military contract.
SA and RRA founded the IFMA and are the ONLY members. Stop digging.
It is unfortunate that we can create a list of Gun Manufactures who have stupidly supported legislation that gave them a short term gain while throwing the rest of the gun community under the bus… S&W, Ruger to name a few. What would SA or RRA gain by supporting anti-gun legislation? You know, no customers, no money? When you see Ruger building the AR-556 in Mayoden NC rather than the anti-gun states in the north east you can see that Ruger has learned their lesson.
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Yeah- this is the final straw. Ill keep my Ruger SR556. Because if all the illegal Federal Gun Laws were repealed THERE WOULDN’T BE MUCH OF A NEED FOR THE NRA…except maybe for Boy Scout hunting clubs. Did Glock sign-off in support of this anti-gun legislation?
Naturally I am willing to listen to whatever they care to share about the subject. It wouldn’t surprise me one bit, at this point, to discover these clowns are actually Democrats themselves. The Reese family is finally going to pay for there lies with customers abandoning them. Equal opportunity graft and corruption? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhraoVIJ1OE. Springfield and Rock River have got to be the two biggest.
What good would it do them to carve out an exemption for themselves?
https://www.opensecrets.org/527s/527cmtedetail_contribs.php?ein=464628447&cycle=2016.
Let’s not be like the Lib’s and blow something way out of proportion before we have all the facts. If I understand correctly, the bill requires dealers selling over ten or so firearms to meet a state licensing requirement in addition to the federal requirements. But contribute $100,000 to pro gun, and produce guns. The Springfield Armory of today is already a knockoff of the original, and if the bill passes, irretrievably damaged. Contributing to the campaign of an eventual winner has value, whether or not that candidate is considered friendly to your cause.
At least not intentionally. When one pays protection money to the mob, it isn’t because one likes the mob or agrees/ supports their agenda.
Could this be the beginning of the end for Springfield and Rock Island ? Being the self-assessed “Lazy Ass” that I am, I had not looked into which “Rock Island” whatever we were discussing.
I would buy that argument if they gave money to moderates or downstate democrats who might be on the fence with 2A stuff. No longer. Last RRA I bought was a couple of triggers some years back, but with the price and quality of drop in triggers now available, that wouldn’t have happened again anyway.
Or how much either gave to the IFMA?
The Illinois State Board of Elections website is here.]. Until there is further comment from RRA/SA I can only base my opinion on info they have already shared. Well if it’s been going on this long the companies either pay no attention to how their money is spent or they knew about it and we’re OK with it for some reason. As far as the political advice goes, and I say this respectfully. On the positive side, I see SB-1657 opposition material at my “local gun counter” which is a step in the right direction.
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